WIP: hell math
Feb. 9th, 2020 10:17 pm--
TVGuide.com: So you'll have scene set in hell?
Kripke: I can give this away. Dean spends a lot more time in hell than anyone's probably thinking. Dean could spend — in human time — six months, maybe more. In hell time, who knows how many years or decades that might be. [Laughs] I won't tell you how he gets out, but he will emerge to a different landscape. A lot has changed since he's been away, and he has to readjust to his loved ones after being gone for so long.
Rudolph, Ileane. 2008. "Supernatural Creator Eric Kripke: 'Dean Lives!'" TV Guide, May 29.
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You said no archangels are around, but we heard last week that the door of the cage is open and we know Jake Abel is returning as Adam and Michael so how will that figure in?
Yes, I think an archangel will be around very soon but not yet. In terms of Michael; you’ve got a character Michael and Adam. You’ve got character that has been through what for us is like ten years but by hell math is about a thousand years [of torture and isolation].
I think what we’ve found is they’ve formed kind of a very odd relationship. It’s two guys trapped in a cage together for a long time, and at first it was violent, angry relationship but eventually became something that they could kind of both live with. And with that door open…if and when they step outside what does that mean, and what’s their agenda and that’s something that we will explore before the mid-season.
Mason, Jessica. 2019. “Interview: Supernatural Showrunner Andrew Dabb Talks Romance, Returns, Roadhouse and More in Season 15.” The Mary Sue, October 17.
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TVLINE | There was this really cool image of two Jakes sitting opposite each other in the trailer for this season. Is there anything you can tease about the circumstances of his return?
[Adam and Michael] have been in a cell together for a long time, and even if, at first, they had a real hostile relationship, after the equivalent of a couple of decades down there — or centuries, depending on how Hell math works — they kind of have reached a detente, a kind of peace. So when they’re coming into the world, they’re both kind of feeling it out. They’ve both been gone for 10 years. The world’s very different. It’s different to Adam just because it’s different. Think how much has changed in 10 years. And it’s different to Michael because his plan failed. God never came back. His entire reason for existing kind of went away. How does he deal with that and the fallout of that, especially knowing that his God did come back, but not for him, and not for Lucifer? It was for Sam and Dean.
Gelman, Vlada. 2019. “Supernatural Boss Previews Dean and Sam's Reunion With Lost Brother Adam -- Plus, Michael Returns in Sneak Peek." TV Line, December 10.
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6x14 - thoughts about Helltime by monicawoe (February 2011); archive link
An exercise in time dilation mathematics [November 2012] by joonchi; thornshrike
Ask: I’ve heard people say that Sam was in the cage for around 180 to 200 years. Can you tell me how accurate that is and then show me the math on that? [October 2013] by fandomdebunker
Short and Cruel Reflection on Cage!time vs. Earth!time [June 2015] by semirahrose
“...even if Sam’s estimation of his experience of Hell isn’t right and we just go with Dean’s, Sam was tortured in the Cage more than five times as long as he has been alive” (Untitled) [April 2018] by semirahrose
Sam, Dean, The Cage, and Memory [October 2015] by ameliacareful